Let’s talk about the Launch Balancing post | Outriders Worldslayer
Join me and Let’s talk about the Launch Balancing post for Outriders Worldslayer which is launching this week.
00:00 Intro
01:55 QOL Updates
04:28 Balance discussion
17:16 Nerfs to popular buildstyles
23:26 Closing thoughts
27:22 Outro and Thanks
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Moar Outriders content/guides
⎆ AP Trickster build – https://youtu.be/jUwroKZ9pmY
⎆ FASER Pyromancer build – https://youtu.be/zt1K6PZMBVo
⎆ Two great Devastator builds – https://youtu.be/2y7LhFgeI4U
⎆ Fast clearing Pyromancer build – https://youtu.be/wwJ4kTS-X_A
⎆ Ridiculously OP FP Trickster build – https://youtu.be/VZCrSuHSHDo
⎆ How important is Deathshield really – https://youtu.be/7V5OdQ0UOlQ
⎆ Noah’s Loot pool explained – https://youtu.be/4Far4EB6PGc
⎆ Insane new Borealis Technomancer – https://youtu.be/aPzMAh8kJIM
⎆ The 2 Best Trickster Builds – https://youtu.be/3bNd1UicPWY
⎆ Two Most Powerful Devastator Builds – https://youtu.be/fLfCkzqitXo
⎆ The Only Technomancer builds you need – https://youtu.be/Uejo5clpB4Q
⎆ The Best Grim Inventor build – https://youtu.be/MlGRiJshft0
⎆ Best Debuff Pyro you aren’t playing – https://youtu.be/ksavw4H6yPE
⎆ Trespasser Trickster is OP – https://youtu.be/8jc1JLuJM8U
⎆ Volcanic Firepower Pyromancer – https://youtu.be/plZOJaNWtnY
⎆ The Best Seismic Commander – https://youtu.be/ltWQq3U3J8w
⎆ Highest Damage FP Technomancer – https://youtu.be/8wgRrTj0pxU
⎆ Meta Seismic Commander – https://youtu.be/J37_9gv4ITI
⎆ AP Trickster is Insane – https://youtu.be/G9-o0ljaD8s
⎆ De-Buff Devastator – https://youtu.be/22xzFnbKgoc
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It’s people who still can’t beat end game content now. Not without being carried. Yeah get good should be what their pushing.
I played this game for 200 hours. I agree it can't be the same old DPS fest it was last time. It'll get old really fast. I am interested in what they have changed. I still think this was one of the best looters out there regardless of it's various issues. As long as there is new interesting things to chase I think I'll be down. But I will wait before buying.
So I'm officially a pyro/deva main but my favorite build right now is RPG techno (Grim Inventor is amazing). It may not be the best but with Fixing Wave as part of my ammo sustain I feel pretty unkillable in it.
Not at all meta, but it honestly might be my first char for WS.
Having more than just meta builds makes the game more fun for everyone. I started quitting teams with Toxic gunners because I was having no fun having every kill stolen. Being the best killer shouldn't be the only aim of the game right?
the load outs is dumb and i could careless….i make every build on every character wear a certain gear so i just load up the set i wanna wear, very simple
I am 60 yrs old (xbox) and will never be able to compete with a 18yr old on a computer. I just want to kill things and not endlessly being destroyed. It appears you are dancing around some serious problems for players like me at launch ☹️
Umm, what happens to my game if I don't get world'slayer? Will it all stay the same. Will I loose multilayer with those who have it.?
If they make the mods gimmicky like rolling and stupid shit fuck this game I'm out
ifully disagree on tactical assault rifles….someone show me a video of someone in a group of 3 using a tactical assault rifle without ever losing blighted rounds…..u cant because it isnt possible, people make videos playing solo with it on techno but never in groups of 3…..i have found the lucky jinx is crazy good on a techno and anyone who has ever played with someone using it on a techno prolly played with me and will tell i drop brood mothers, bohemoths and crawlers within 4 seconds
my big issue is that pcf is the ones who created how we make our op builds when they made timed expeditions…..so i can see now where they make changes to stuff to make everything viable……the issue is…nobody will ever choose max health gear over firepower or anomaly power gear unless they make gear do more damage the higher your health
the people who cry and say i dont want the game now or anything, its like we are getting an entire new game, kinda outriders 1.5…i have 2k hours into this game and im stoked that i get to learn new builds for all the new armors and sets and weapons….i can tell how tfm is speaking that he wants to tell people they are fucking nuts if they dont buy it
@The Full Measure, Cheers 🍻 Bro ! Another great video from you keep it up! Optimistic, insightful and more of that positive energy 👏 Let's go, I'm looking forward to the New content and making improved builds all over again. Even more powerful Outriders 💪
I really enjoy your channel your always have a great way of explainig things. I just cant wait for the world slayer to drop. Honestly i dont care to much about all the nervs and changes that are coming. I love the game. And all we have to do is give it a few days and you'll be there explaing and switching on those "light bulbs". Thanks again for the channel its awesome.
I just got back to grinding I’m only on ct7. Two kids, work, school and so many games this game kind of fell to the side. I’m excited for Worldslayer though. I’d love to see more build diversity. That’s what’s been fun for me in the game, just experimenting with random combinations of mods and weapons to demolish with.
It's better to get everything changed yes we adopt it and maybe some under powered stuff will be op but new gear Seams to be meta as far as grind goes yah I go hard for Pryo but with both 2 main character already getting nerfered coming idn if If prefer the new meta over what's here now
I can't wait to once again be under the watchful eye of RNGeezus.
They should have a personal stash and a shared stash not just one giant one. That would be a mess to organize.
I’ve always been kind of against the whole “META building” in videogames. A good game, in my humble opinion, should let you play the way you want to play it, so you can find YOUR META based on your own play style. It’s really nice to see that some game developers feels the same way. 🤗🤗🤗
They should also have the ability to share items with friends.
In a game based on doing damage to survive, of course dps builds are king. But it seems like ap builds started to dominate. Give us a way to heal and people might play differently.
Hopefully Techno's minigun will let you run and walk at regular speeds so the thing can compete, who wants to walk around at .5 meters a second on a 25 second cooldown. Some builds just dont work because the base cd on some skills is 20+ seconds, and skills need so many mods to compete with a rounds build on top of insane weapon mods so you arent doing nothing for the 5-10 all your skills are on cooldown.
Always great to hear your points on these things my friend. Unless they are redoing the entire game(which they aint) ….Im still all in and cant wait.
Couple questions for me are : will the faser beam debug pyro from you still be viable and you’ve been playing the beta for a minute now, do you really feel that these nerfs are necessary when they could have just buffed the other sets? As always full i love the content you create. Great video. Thanks 🙏
It seems like, to me, after reading the blogpost they are looking to making things better by making changes to promote build diversity. I didn’t have a problem with anything presented in that post.
I just pray that the story is as long the first part!🤔 if so I be happy👍 and I don't want just start off demolishing everything! Wheres the fun in that? so I'm fine with changes as long as its balanced but I hope they fixed it where when someone quits you don't get stuck in a lost connection to the host, I hate 2 min + worth of loading! Atleast make it where we can pass the host spot to someone before quitting! Oh and Wazzuuuup Full measure I'm ready bro!!! Cant wait! 😁
Can't download expansion. Getting an error. May not be able to until the day of, I guess.
I understand a lot of the changes they made. I honestly think this will loosen up a lot of those very stiff meta builds and allow for more diversity all around. Thanks for the coverage.
nice, good thing they didn't just nerf the Tac Rifle
You’re a great ambassador for this game. It’s great to see your channel popping off like this. Well deserved.
All classes I played felt good when fully maximized even the meta builds. Solo was a breeze but all of them fell hard in 3s except trickster.
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I'm so glad that they are taking all these changes into account. I've said it before that percent multipliers can either make or break a game, which in this case breaks. Most firepower builds know full and well that you have static numbers to stack onto your overall dps where as in anomoly, status, or debuff, you get a percentage which is satisfying to watch a double burst Branded thermal bomb melt an enemy or a cold snap turning things to mush, but these stacks, especially in group play lead to you ultimately playing blindfolded without a care. While I'm guilty of taking advantage of these percentage multipliers, I also constantly make my build quality more reliable rather than dependant. This essentially is why I play middle tree techno, Pyro, and trickster, because it levels my builds to a point they aren't overly broken by stacking damage.
Them making changes as you said, "meeting in the middle" is the kind of changes they should have done with new horizons, but nevertheless I am grateful that they are taking into account the Underused sets and making them viable. Build diversity is what's going to keep this game alive. Fixing borealis and grim inventor made that possible, fixing reforged and alot of mods for Pyro made that possible, fixing trespasser made that possible, making expo timers turn on and off made that possible. Now by giving each set a critical endgame niche is also going to make this possible.
While I'm not a fan of rounds build archetypes, I do agree with the changes they are making by making the Reload mechanics much less touchy.
People will say what they want about this game, I myself was skeptical for awhile but I'm awed by the amount of effort and work they have put into this game. I can't wait to walk into worldslayer and take on these new challenges and experience this whole new game.
Great video bro as fuckin usual. Glad that instead of nerfing things into the ground like other games I play like destiny2 and making some things just no longer fun or good to use People Can Fly seem to be taking a let's bring other game aspects up to make them better/more attractive to use. Love this philosophy. Yes some things I liked may change, but looks like other things will change for the better to compensate. Hasn't lowered my hype for Worldslayer one iota. Early access on 28th cant arrive soon enough.
I'm deleting everything in my stash and everything not equipped too make space on the 28th
All of this sounds promising. I'm just hoping for a more compelling end game loop. I lost interest in the expeditions pretty early. Fun game play but monotonous when running the same identical missions over and over. Only put enough time to level up one class and am missing tons of set pieces and Meta mods. Looking forward to picking my devastator back up and tackling new content. Hopefully I can remember how to play lol.
A few other content creators were just saying to discard all your unused gear and start fresh but I'm glad I didn't do that over the weekend and glad I saw this video. I'll have to go into this new content with a fresh outlook and lots of experimentation with all the changes.
I am still hyped for the game. Playing the game and seeing the balance changes will be the best way to gauge the expansion. But yes. please don't cry about nerfs yet. New builds and build diversity is good.
I believe the best advice out of this vid was, wait and see and make up your own mind. I'm glad things are changing as it keeps the game fresh and may make it interesting to go back and do the whole game again with different builds etc.
To be fair this is not a problem at all. People who complain are complaining for the sake of complaining. Because people with functioning brain and are skeptical of expansion will just wait for it to come out and hear proper reviews and footage before deciding to buy or not to buy expansion. Like nobody is forcing other players to buy this expansion.
Stash isn't a problem I have never had my stash full, people need to know how to use it properly.
I really don't like the idea of having to do break dancing moves to increase my damage.
well said. at first i was nervous because you want your optimized builds to (mostly) still slap, but Ill embrace the change. what you said at the end regarding PCF wanting this game to have longevity was great. For Honor was far from perfect but it had a dedicated and stable multiplayer with constant tweaks from the developers. Im looking forward to sinking my time into Worldslayer
I think my biggest problem at this point is how much this sounds like we are discussing a games as a service style product which they said the didn't want to do. Part of what interested me in the first place was being able to buy a complete and mostly functional game but they keep tinkering with it. I mean is this a full price beta with an extra DLC at this point?
I'm a little worried, but also optimistic. I really like the Acari set, because it synergizes with how I like to play Pyro, which is to light dudes on fire and drop a hot nuke on them. The problem with the Acari set though is that it's just THE AP pyro set. Acari set is better at being the Lava Lich and Reforged sets, than the Lava Lich and Reforged sets are.
That's actually how I found this channel. I didn't know about the New Horizon's patch because I stopped paying attention to the game for some time. I saw the update, and the change log and saw a bunch of stuff got buffed. So I wanted to try the Lava Lich build out because its always sounded fun, but the set sucked. I pulled my old set out of the bank, put some mods together, and ran some expeditions. It just felt kinda underwhelming, and I got the funny idea to try the same build idea, but wearing the Acari set instead. Afterwards i thought "No way this build still sucks, I have to be doing it wrong." So I put "New Horizon's Lava Lich build" into bing and your video was one of the first couple results. The build was basically exactly what I came up with, so I decided to see what other builds you had. I'd have never even thought to try playing a Trickster had it not been for this channel. Because I thought AP Trickster didn't exist, then I saw your Tresspasser set video and was like "Yo that looks fun AF."