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I just sent a request on discord cuz I agree I want a safe game to grind on as well
They need to hire competent employees. Period.
They nurfed trikster so much I hate it, aside from all the hackers that make the game un-enjoyable.
You are not a negative Nancy. I have felt that I have been a negative Nancy on this game lately. I haven't had many great things to say in a while. All's we can do is wait and see if they surprise us in a positive way. We can only hope for the best while prepping for the worst.
They got to increase the apoc drop rate on gear, I'm running apoc 40 and 80% atleast of what drops is non-apoc, it's hard enough to get the drops you need let alone dealing with insta-scrapping near everything you get. I have 200,000+ anomaly extract and still don't have any armor near "god roll".
it's not just that they ignore the community
there's nothing they can do they can't ban cheaters they only has 4 thousand people playing on steam
this game isn't successful enough to support a big enough team to fix these issues
It's their own fault for releasing this trash unfinished time and time again… and these losers had the audacity to write a blog bragging about the dlc before launch
the devs aren't playing the current version of the game they are doing other things… future things… that's why it seems like they don't know what's going on… it's because they don't
they don't play test their own game that's left to a third party company
The biggest problem is the gear we now get, pre patch we got enough usable gear that you could rise up the levels building different builds according to what drops you got. This meant by the time you got to higher levels, you've tried the whole range of armor sets and skills and can settle on what you enjoy. Now you really get anything usable, this means you have to stick to one build and slog your way up. Very much doubt that I'm gonna grind all 4 classes in this environment, so time to look for a diffrent game
I find the game is too easy , calm the loot drops, make a rotation of an even harder exhibition weekly that enemies are way higher than you're level so that you actually need to work as a team to complete it ,also weapons that only drop randomly for completing it 🤔 I don't know just making up things , any suggestions guys ?
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I wish the game was a live service then maybe we would get more reactions
"The entirely Playstation Account hacked" …I bet my ass that had nothing to do with Outriders.
I don't understand why PCF is always stingy with loot. IMO with all the levels of rng required to create a single build, the game should be dropping two or three more times the loot than it does currently. Their loot drops feel like they are meant for a live service style game with lots of targeted loot farms – not the current finite experience. Borderlands size lootsplosions are very much needed. Sucks that I get the most of the best loot when checking vendors and not from actually playing.
The entire game is grind based so nerfing any skills is stupid of the devs part. Anomaly extract and apoc gear need to be buffed since there’s no other content besides grinding trials. The devs should focus their time increasing rates and fixing okriel’s instakill bug, otherwise I wish they’d focus on new content before nerfing anything.
I haven’t done any matchmaking and I’m glad I haven’t now knowing this stuff could happen. Diablo 3 had this problem on console and it turned me off of matchmaking for that game entirely.
I play on xbox and pc and the missing mod issues is with pc as i don't have that issue on xbox but I would advise you to turn crossplay off
I wish we could have loudout slot
I left outriders WS. Prohibitive Grind, Frustrating loot mechanics, anomaly extract economy doesn’t work. Let’s just call it…WS post patch community feels like Anthem. Only the masochistic players are still playing.
Personally, I enjoy playing the game solo. The biggest problem I see is the lack of content. Right now I'm grinding trials for levels and gear so I can grind trials some more?
I took a lil break I'm apocalypse tier 30 and shit it's a grind so I'm willing to do this and take my time then getting help from some modders or hackers who's been ruining the fun for other's stay safe everyone God Bless you all…
If the developers want to hold onto their player base they need to turn this game into a live service game with updated content every 3 or 4 months. Dropping a paid expansion once a year simply doesn't add enough replayable content to keep people interested in playing long term. I like this game but as many others have pointed out the grind is crazy and limits players to using one build. After a certain point the loot drops are terrible with 99.9% of loot obtained serving only as materials for leveling up your one viable build.
Fixing the loot drops would be simple make it where the apoc mod slot can be rolled also but make it cost drop pods and titanium and make it cost more materials everytime u reroll it it can be a choice of 3 mods just like when we upgrade from green to blue to purple…so now we can roll 1 slot as per usual and the apoc slot as well…the xp grind is long enough…in my opinion…we deserve to build freely in that regard
Very stingy boot drops on the three characters I’m running. ALL need boots to finish their builds! Is this a coincidence? Hacked accounts left and right, search tarya but end up in a story mission or expedition, Apoc grind is so grueling that everyone is using the apoc level glitch to skip it. Trials feels stale fast. It needs something added to keep it fresh like rotating modifiers, random enemy spawns etc. P2P connection shenanigans continue as well
So far I haven’t come across an issue with having my game modded or account hacked, but at this point it’s probably just a matter of time. I don’t really have many issues with loot drops either. Thus far I’ve been pretty lucky with the gear I’ve gotten. There’s a handful of mods I’d love to swap out or apocalypse mods that aren’t useful. This game has so much potential, I’m not sure it’ll ever live up to that potential under Square though. They really only care about their jrpg’s. If you don’t believe me they recently sold off their entire western division of studios and all of the IP that comes along with it for a measly 300 million.
Over the last few weeks I would say 50% of the players I have match made with have had nodded accounts and most have been on console with 1 shot pistols and Max lvls
I agree the Game is in better position, but the player base is still shrinking and long term motivation is on the lower end. I think the following aspects are the main problems – to much useless loot, to many nerfs, quite a lot of bugs and new xp progression is a pain in the a**. I am still hope for the best, but I am not sure if PCF will keep Outriders alive. Best wishes…
As someone who has followed you since this game started, I don’t think you’ve complained enough with this DLC. The experience driven grind is excessive compared to the previous Challenge Tiers where we moved up just by clearing the level. The Loot drops are pathetic and this static dungeon is a joke, especially since they didn’t buff rewards everywhere else in the game.
Steam shows the game has already lost about 70% of the players that actually returned for this DLC which should tell them everything they need to know. Steam isn’t everything, of course, but it is a good indicator of player behavior. I put in more than 2000 hours on this game, but played this DLC for a few days and quit. I’ve played enough of these games to know a terrible XP grind when I see one.
not only the cheaters the new endgame is already boring as fuck lol maxed the chars I wanted to max and uninstalled already
I came across this 2 weeks ago someone joined and i went from 65 to 199 and apoc went 8 lvls from 2 rooms i left I didn't know what was going on
The apoc grind is too much, the drops especially in the new area are horrible but my biggest frustration is that their r a few good things in the game like the hunts that they have left to go to waste
Game is enjoyable…. Grind is long but that kinda adds to playability but since u can only play the same areas over and over that makes the game boring. The problem with the company is anytime someone (creator) makes a suggestion about what they did wrong they get defensive. They get called out cause a creator is cheating so they say everyone who runs the final boss multiple times is also a cheater…. Loved the game will continue to play it but will not purchase anything else from this company.
Agree I had same problem of my character got boosted to 200points , after that I don’t play with any random players it is now just single plate game for me
This isn't negative at all this is the truth
The game is already dead. Next.
Dear Square Enix— PCF, this game had me so excited (pre-launch) I had a load of fun launching the game early (preordered) and starting the leveling process. I didn't have as much time as I would've liked however the time I did have was used inside your game. I reached end game and below will start my rant:
I started the worst "artificial" grind system I've ever been a part of. Repeating the most generic end game structure I've ever played. The exact same thing for what appears to be months and months to complete.
Now look, i'm ok with a grind, I have a paragon 2500-4k seasonal in diablo. What I'm not ok with is this static unchanging exactly the same every single time you load in mechanics. Not a single person would actually enjoy repeating the exact same activity with completely 0 variance with little reward. Which brings me to my next point, the loot:
The loot system (that you destroyed) is the worst the game has been in ever. It is near impossible to get what you need in regards to APOCALYPSE gear. And now that you nerfed the drop rate it's even that much more impossible. This game has completely lost it's appeal to me and my last point was the proverbial "icing on the cake:
I had a friend who lost his entire character due to a random person joining his game and without his knowledge or PERMISSION, boosted his Ascension level to 200, if that wasn't bad enough he was immediately lagged out and eventually regardless of attempt WAS UNABLE TO OKAY HIS CHARACTER ANY MORE AT ALL. And you all just shrug it off and say "nothing we can do" UNACCEPTABLE.
SUGGESTED FIXES:
1- FIX THE MODDERSHACKERS ISSUE SO MATCHMAKING CAN BE FUN AND USABLE AGAIN
2- PROVIDE A RANDOMIZATION TO TRIALS TO ALLOW FOR SOME ADDITIONAL VARIETY TO THE ONLY END GAME SYSTEM
3-IMPROVE CRAFTING TO BE VIABLE AGAIN, GIVING US SOME WAY TO CREATE OUR OWN APOCALYPSE GEAR.
4-ADD IN AN IN-GAME VOICETYPE CHAT FEATURE
5- GIVE THE END GAME PLAYERS MORE TO DO THAN AN ARTIFICIAL GRIND SYSTEM THAT RESULTS IN NOTHING (FOR EXAMPLE: A RANDOMLY GENERATED DUNGEON SIMILAR TO GREATER RIFTS IN DIABLO WITH LEADERBOARDS, CRAFTING THAT BENEFITS THE PLAYER FROM GRINDING INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO A BASE STAT REROLL SYSTEM ON ITEMS WITHOUT ADVERSELY AFFECTING THE MOD SLOTS WHILE ALSO ALLOWING THE REROLL OF THE MOD SLOT INCLUDING THE APOC SLOT…
6-ALLOW THE ASCENSION LEVEL TO CONTINUE INCREASING CORE STATS AFTER 200 THERE-IN MAKING OUR CHARACTERS MORE POWERFUL (REWARDED) FOR PLAYING MORE OF THE GRIND
7- COMMUNICATE WITH THE COMMUNITY MORE, RESPOND AND REACT TO THE ISSUES WE FACE AND PROVIDE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT AND SOLUTIONS THE SAID PROBLEMS
Not looking good for PCF. Gotta give them a pat on the back, two ruined launches, and continuing to make the same mistakes and they wonder why they made no money?
Same here. I love the game
Yo! That's my reddit post. Holy crap, thank you for making this video and talk about it. One of my helmet in my stash, now has only one mod.
HA! I knew this was going to happen! I deleted this game before the release of the expansion. I knew it was going to be crap! Waste of time! Thanks for covering this game. You helped me make the right decision. I hope you do Skull & Bones once it releases. I'm praying it's good.🙏
I'm considering deleting my apoc 35 trickster because I was using matchmaking last week and after a trials run with 2 random on a lower at than me I looked at my class points and I had 58 more class points and 15 more pax tree points and I can't get rid of them :T imma take a break from outriders and just focus on d2 pvp/overwatch pugs for now
I’ve thought about it and I don’t think there is anything to do with modding. It’s gonna be bad
Another problem to add that I have noticed is that purple apoc gear hasn’t been dropping tier 3 mods. I see tier 3 mods on purple apoc guns pretty often but never on the gear. I am on Xbox, the only place I see the tier 3 mods on purple apoc gear is from the vendors.
Can someone please tell me what the point of grinding higher apoc tiers is? Like basically all you are doing is looking at a higher number, other than that what's the point of wasting time, idk how that's fun