Let’s talk through the primaris outriders and what they can do in game…
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0:00 Intro
0:32 Models + Lore
2:27 Datasheet
6:32 The ATV
7:34 Unit Support
10:13 Detachments
11:57 Divergent Chapters
14:23 Role vs Jump Intercessors
15:34 Outro
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What I see here is a cheap, mobile unit that can be sacrificed to make a secondary and is also capable of wiping out the opponent's support units. If you add some melee rules detachment and some stratagems, you will occasionally be able to do severe damage. I would not add a chaplain, since the unit does not shoot well, is no longer sacrificial and we can get the +1 wound via stratagems if necessary.
Let's not forget the 2 halves of the bike not fitting together properly! Am I right, GW!?
They can be pretty good in the new Librarius Detachment with Librarian on Bike when playing in places where Legends are not taboo
For 60 points they can take the worst looking space marine unit.
Thanks James W. Shop.
My blood angels outriders have never left my list.
They are my precious bike boys and i love them for that.
Now, its time for vindication
I run a chaplain with outriders in my black temple army always done, happy about the buff <3
Just wish the Sergeants got melee weapon options and that 1 per 3 models could take a special weapon… SM bikes should be 'dragoons'.
Would a 6 man biker squad plus chaplain be a good place for the rage fueled warrior enhancement?
I thought about bikes. But went with an atv instead. 60pts action monkey, especially with scouts going up in pts. Its the best chesp option.
Suppressors have been great for me as well. They dont have the melee damage of jump intercessors. But 75 pts, for a deepstrike unit, fast, and if i dont need them to do an action. I can have them debuff an enemy unit. I think if they also gave the supressed unit a -1" to move and charge rolls. They would be an insane unit.
Mounted are awkward to play with and its still only ap -1. Dont think I'd be excited to run 6 mans or with a character, would likely still prefer Jump Cessors unless I want a unit specifically to do move blocking but if I had to swap a Jump Cessor for a small squad to move 10 points around it wouldn't be the worst. Not to mention all the Lance, Chaplain, Oath +1 to wound nonbo-ing happening.
Petition for GW to make Outrider veteran squad with power lances and knights theme
I think a missed opportunity is using ATVs as a free-fire guard, I have a space wolves army with thunderwolves, and the ATV gets to shoot back at things that shoot at mounted units within 6" of it so you just follow your wolves with one as freebie fire if they try to shoot at them before the get into melee. Stormlance with all that and some leaders like Harold and Canis and you've got a minimum 10" move, fallback and charge with your wolves who get damage and keyword bonuses. Outriders are ok when doing this too but never put your ATV attached as it loses it's ability for some stupid reason at that point. All that said the last bonus is none of the units count as infantry or vehicles so there's nothing with the anti keyword against you.
i wonder a primaris captain in bike with thunderhammer will be released soon
Auspex, I know you covered Company of Hunters already, but with all the recent changes, could you cover it again? It would be really helpful to hear your thoughts on the recent state of the detachments.
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I'm surprised that Sammael didn't get a mention for leading a unit of these. 6 attacks with Sustained 2, hitting on 2, AP-3 Dam3 on the charge is spicy!
I understand it’s a push fit kit from 9th but it would be nice if they could have a twin linked melta rifle 1 per 3 and the sergeant could take a power sword but overall it’s looking good for them now
Now they compete for a slot in my SW list.
Even with the changes from the balance dataslate, they aren't good enough. The charge bonus is nice but not worth losing the auto advance ability. I'd rather the sargeant could take a power weapon, power fist or thunder hammer/relic weapon, and the unit have the old impact hits. Then they would be better.
Can we friggin finally get bike CHARACTERS and a bike elite unit with either good guns or a good melee weapon?