OUTRIDERS is a game that is being held back massively by some of the poorest design choices possible. This is the official Coach Toolshed review. Enjoy.
44 thoughts on “OUTRIDERS REVIEW – BAD Design Choices 101”
Bad end game design is the biggest issue with the game, aside from its continuing technical problems. For every good QOL decision made by the developer, there's two horrible decisions behind it. Overall, a lot of frustrating issues mar an otherwise decent looter shooter.
The worst part of it is how they do not tell people the changes they make in patch notes. They leave it up to the playerbase to figure out what has been nerfed.
Haven't played it, just watched several reviews w/gameplay, and it looks like a sloppy, boring Borderlands ripofff….That said, can anyone give me a clue as to why it appeals? Thank you! P.S. Now we get to have another, very vocal battle between the "Sell the game in a finished, polished version!" and the "Give it time, they're going to make it awesome, eventually…" clans…I'm of the 'sell the thing when it's done, and have some pride in your products, and give your devs the time and resources they require…" camp, myself…
It's a simple reason why this happens to video games. it's because the developers are brain dead people who don't know the difference between there heads and there ass. Also they don't play there own games that they develop. It's that simple
Great job as always, Coach! Did you happen to crank up the brightness or is this how the game looks out of the box? With this lighting there's no atmosphere and the maps look kinda bland.
I don't play these sorts of games, but at secondhand here it looks like these devs are aping the design 'philosophy' and practices geared towards live service exploitation and maintaining player engagement through scumlord tactics. Problem being, they don't understand the reason these things are done in other games, so they're not even milking their playerbase via macrotransactions etc. It's bizarre.
i would never buy or play this game it's a live service game, they are a plague on the industry. good on you coach for falling on the sword so everyone else does not have to by ripping into this "AAA" garbage.
Sounds like these developers have no idea about the absolute basics. Insane. EDIT: Morons that use the Nerf bat when they should be buffing things are a special kind of awful.
No option to lock gear so you don't accidentally sell it to a vendor or destroy it… Yeah, that's kind of crazy for 2021. I mean, I can't swear to it, but I'm pretty sure WOW had that when it first came out. Did it even have a warning for when a person tries to sell / destroy a high level item? Nice review. It was very informative.
From the looks of it, the game seems like a cross between Fallout 4, [Prototype], and Remnant From The Ashes… …and then making those 3 games even worse.
If they keep nerfing, in a game that I couldn't see why you would even nerf ANYTHING WHATSOEVER, I would quit playing the very next second of the announcement.
you are so right about your statements.. The Devs are clueless and retarded sadly. HEAVY RNG shiet game is what Outriders is, Sadly the Graphics team did amazing job, the rest of the firm had no clue and should be jobless!
🤔 From what I see, the mechanics of this game are very similar to GEARS 0F WAR; even the design of the weapons & other aspects of it are very similar to G0W; the only exception would be when a human use "magic" or whatever the magic is called in it, but not so much in comparison to the magic used by the Locust, such as RAAM.
Remember when the fanboy's were saying that this game game was so much better than the likes of destiny and the division?
It's worse.
Less content, worse shooting mechanics and animations, no pvp but somehow only 5% of all builds are viable in a end game that is nothing but a bare bones horde mode with ZERO mechanics.
Did i forget to say the game has had more patches than cyberpunk but somehow it's still buggy and increasingly grindier to play.
Game Drought? okey sure, but i got Monster Hunter Rise.. and even though its probably not a 'finished' game till the end of the month it seems way more fun to play then another boring looter shooter.
You have to appreciate how difficult it is to balance this kind of game. I believe that Diablo is the king of this genre and they take years to make. How would you react if you put effort into making a game and players found broken builds that smashed through all the content? It would shorten the lifespan of the game and you would have to rebalance it.
I totally agree… I was a crowd control techno… Ppl kept asking me why I was running certain things… Eventually I made my techno dps… I had more fun playing crowd control but they force you to be dps
Cross play still dont work i still get dashborderd on xbox atleast 6 times a day i have had shit vanishing out my stash mods never work like they supposed to i sadly quit today tired of being nerfed endgame is boring i never get gold time were i used to and being one hit and die is enough for me
180 hours, man you deserve way more subscribers and views putting in that kind of effort into a game like this! Just another example of why people should never pre-order games!!!
Bad end game design is the biggest issue with the game, aside from its continuing technical problems. For every good QOL decision made by the developer, there's two horrible decisions behind it. Overall, a lot of frustrating issues mar an otherwise decent looter shooter.
The worst part of it is how they do not tell people the changes they make in patch notes. They leave it up to the playerbase to figure out what has been nerfed.
Based off your review alone, It sounds like a browser game i play called Titan Conquest (Highly recommend it) sounds better.
Haven't played it, just watched several reviews w/gameplay, and it looks like a sloppy, boring Borderlands ripofff….That said, can anyone give me a clue as to why it appeals? Thank you! P.S. Now we get to have another, very vocal battle between the "Sell the game in a finished, polished version!" and the "Give it time, they're going to make it awesome, eventually…" clans…I'm of the 'sell the thing when it's done, and have some pride in your products, and give your devs the time and resources they require…" camp, myself…
Man am I glad I decided to wait on this game. Thanks for the review!
It's a simple reason why this happens to video games. it's because the developers are brain dead people who don't know the difference between there heads and there ass. Also they don't play there own games that they develop. It's that simple
it looks super boring Sir, Thanks for taking one (thousand hours) for the gamers.
Great job as always, Coach! Did you happen to crank up the brightness or is this how the game looks out of the box? With this lighting there's no atmosphere and the maps look kinda bland.
Hey CTG, appreciate the review/warning.
"Expect the worst and you can't be disappointed" is currently gaming.
Be well and cheers.
I don't play these sorts of games, but at secondhand here it looks like these devs are aping the design 'philosophy' and practices geared towards live service exploitation and maintaining player engagement through scumlord tactics. Problem being, they don't understand the reason these things are done in other games, so they're not even milking their playerbase via macrotransactions etc. It's bizarre.
Good grief man, I gave up at the first boss. How'd you make it to 180 hours? I've already moved on to Returnal and its no-save bullshit.
I mean the cover is literally 3 dudes walking in space armor and 1 has a glowing purple hand, that's the same as like 3 other games… This year.
Sounds like a game designed by DPS glory hounds. Pass for me, thanks.
At this point, I'm beginning to wonder if there has ever been a really good Looter Shooter(Besides maybe Borderlands).
I honestly still don’t see the hype for this game
Can’t wait till crowbcat makes a vid in this dumpster fire too
Holy shit, Coach is back.
👍🏾
i would never buy or play this game it's a live service game, they are a plague on the industry. good on you coach for falling on the sword so everyone else does not have to by ripping into this "AAA" garbage.
Sounds like these developers have no idea about the absolute basics. Insane. EDIT: Morons that use the Nerf bat when they should be buffing things are a special kind of awful.
You the Man Coach
The game is straight trash right now.
No option to lock gear so you don't accidentally sell it to a vendor or destroy it… Yeah, that's kind of crazy for 2021. I mean, I can't swear to it, but I'm pretty sure WOW had that when it first came out. Did it even have a warning for when a person tries to sell / destroy a high level item?
Nice review. It was very informative.
Do you know the definition of insanity ? Still expecting something good to come out of a looter-shooter in 2021.
From the looks of it, the game seems like a cross between Fallout 4, [Prototype], and Remnant From The Ashes…
…and then making those 3 games even worse.
If they keep nerfing, in a game that I couldn't see why you would even nerf ANYTHING WHATSOEVER, I would quit playing the very next second of the announcement.
Nerfs… but it's a purely PvE game with no PvP.
Yeah I would be out. Quick.
Soon as a enemy look at my trickster he dies i dont understand
I actually really thought the leveling process was fun. Got to endgame, laughed, and uninstalled.
Why can't I recognize your voice… 🤔… You don't upload enough 😅🙈.. You are super underrated.. Awesome youtuber 👍🏻👍🏻
Looks generic. I long for a gaming evolution. Isn't GaS dead yet?
Good to see you, Coach!
Now i know that if there is a long break for you coach its probably because youre finishing another game for us
Maaan I see The Coach and I click
you are so right about your statements.. The Devs are clueless and retarded sadly. HEAVY RNG shiet game is what Outriders is, Sadly the Graphics team did amazing job, the rest of the firm had no clue and should be jobless!
🤔 From what I see, the mechanics of this game are very similar to GEARS 0F WAR; even the design of the weapons & other aspects of it are very similar to G0W; the only exception would be when a human use "magic" or whatever the magic is called in it, but not so much in comparison to the magic used by the Locust, such as RAAM.
Remember when the fanboy's were saying that this game game was so much better than the likes of destiny and the division?
It's worse.
Less content, worse shooting mechanics and animations, no pvp but somehow only 5% of all builds are viable in a end game that is nothing but a bare bones horde mode with ZERO mechanics.
Did i forget to say the game has had more patches than cyberpunk but somehow it's still buggy and increasingly grindier to play.
Game Drought? okey sure, but i got Monster Hunter Rise.. and even though its probably not a 'finished' game till the end of the month it seems way more fun to play then another boring looter shooter.
It's like Anthem….but fully priced…
You have to appreciate how difficult it is to balance this kind of game. I believe that Diablo is the king of this genre and they take years to make. How would you react if you put effort into making a game and players found broken builds that smashed through all the content? It would shorten the lifespan of the game and you would have to rebalance it.
I totally agree… I was a crowd control techno… Ppl kept asking me why I was running certain things… Eventually I made my techno dps… I had more fun playing crowd control but they force you to be dps
Cross play still dont work i still get dashborderd on xbox atleast 6 times a day i have had shit vanishing out my stash mods never work like they supposed to i sadly quit today tired of being nerfed endgame is boring i never get gold time were i used to and being one hit and die is enough for me
SOUNDS LIKE THE GAME IS FUCKED. THANK YOU FOR THE REVIEW.
180 hours, man you deserve way more subscribers and views putting in that kind of effort into a game like this! Just another example of why people should never pre-order games!!!
I quit when the 1st round of nerfs went live. I had already beat the campaign and I'm not gonna give more time to a game that hates me.